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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick, I&#039;m quite impressed! Clover has certainly advanced a lot since I last looked. I hadn&#039;t realised Clovers&#039; trend reporting had improved so much.

I&#039;ve previously only been looking at adding non-commercial modules to ASL, because it makes it very easy for me to distribute an &quot;all-in-one&quot; download. However, it certainly wouldn&#039;t be too hard to add a module to integrate Clover, with instructions on how to configure it. 

I might get in contact later to discuss how to add it in to ASL. It will probably be much later, though, as I have some deadlines over the next few weeks and months (not to mention CITCON!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick, I&#8217;m quite impressed! Clover has certainly advanced a lot since I last looked. I hadn&#8217;t realised Clovers&#8217; trend reporting had improved so much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve previously only been looking at adding non-commercial modules to ASL, because it makes it very easy for me to distribute an &#8220;all-in-one&#8221; download. However, it certainly wouldn&#8217;t be too hard to add a module to integrate Clover, with instructions on how to configure it. </p>
<p>I might get in contact later to discuss how to add it in to ASL. It will probably be much later, though, as I have some deadlines over the next few weeks and months (not to mention CITCON!)</p>
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		<title>By: NIck Pellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>NIck Pellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe, 

The upcoming release of Clover 2.6.0 may be interest to you. It includes an API to allow Clover to be integrated into any Ant build - the javadocs are already online here: http://docs.atlassian.com/atlassian-clover/

Alternatively, you can integrate Clover into an Ant build with about 3 lines of Ant XML: http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CLOVER/Clover-for-Ant+Two+Line+Integration
This will also generate clover history points, and historical reports to allow trend-reporting - something very valuable when viewing Code Coverage data.

If you would like any help getting Clover integrated with the ASL, please let me know!

Cheers,
Nick Pellow 
Atlassian - Clover</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe, </p>
<p>The upcoming release of Clover 2.6.0 may be interest to you. It includes an API to allow Clover to be integrated into any Ant build &#8211; the javadocs are already online here: <a href="http://docs.atlassian.com/atlassian-clover/" rel="nofollow">http://docs.atlassian.com/atlassian-clover/</a></p>
<p>Alternatively, you can integrate Clover into an Ant build with about 3 lines of Ant XML: <a href="http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CLOVER/Clover-for-Ant+Two+Line+Integration" rel="nofollow">http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CLOVER/Clover-for-Ant+Two+Line+Integration</a><br />
This will also generate clover history points, and historical reports to allow trend-reporting &#8211; something very valuable when viewing Code Coverage data.</p>
<p>If you would like any help getting Clover integrated with the ASL, please let me know!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Nick Pellow<br />
Atlassian &#8211; Clover</p>
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		<title>By: AnthillPro Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnthillPro Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;3 Alternatives to Writing Ant Scripts from Scratch...&lt;/strong&gt;

The message of our Build Engineer Bootcamp was that build scripts need to be treated more like code. Douglas Bullard has some really excellent slides on Object Oriented Ant Scripts that show how to take common OO concepts and apply them in Ant. But ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>3 Alternatives to Writing Ant Scripts from Scratch&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The message of our Build Engineer Bootcamp was that build scripts need to be treated more like code. Douglas Bullard has some really excellent slides on Object Oriented Ant Scripts that show how to take common OO concepts and apply them in Ant. But &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the Bamboo presentation at CITCON London 2006: it really opened my eyes to the power of trend information. I haven&#039;t yet seen what AnthillPro can do, but I image it must be pretty neat.

To me, it makes sense that CI products are well placed to present trends in a coherent manner, because they are in charge of the invoking build after each change. They inherently know the time based aspects of the code.

However, I don&#039;t regard trending as a CI only exercise: I believe it should be part of a good automated build to give access to this. One day I&#039;ll get it into ASL (perhaps!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the Bamboo presentation at CITCON London 2006: it really opened my eyes to the power of trend information. I haven&#8217;t yet seen what AnthillPro can do, but I image it must be pretty neat.</p>
<p>To me, it makes sense that CI products are well placed to present trends in a coherent manner, because they are in charge of the invoking build after each change. They inherently know the time based aspects of the code.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t regard trending as a CI only exercise: I believe it should be part of a good automated build to give access to this. One day I&#8217;ll get it into ASL (perhaps!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Fredrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Fredrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe!

You make a really good point on the importance of trends over time. I got used to taking that for granted while I was Agitar with our Dashboard, and now that I&#039;m at Urbancode trending is built into AnthillPro as well. But there&#039;s something about build tools that seems oriented to points in time rather than trends. No idea why...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe!</p>
<p>You make a really good point on the importance of trends over time. I got used to taking that for granted while I was Agitar with our Dashboard, and now that I&#8217;m at Urbancode trending is built into AnthillPro as well. But there&#8217;s something about build tools that seems oriented to points in time rather than trends. No idea why&#8230;</p>
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